Connect the unexpected
DLD09 live
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Cloud Computing
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(liveblogging in progress , quotes only roughly verbal)
Panelists are:
Marissa Mayer (Google)
Werner Vogels (Amazon)
Russ Daniels (HP)
Moderation: Spencer Reiss (Wired)
Marissa: Cloud Comouting is a buzzword, but it is the buzzword that hits. It's abut providing really reliable server parks. It also is good or consumers as they have a safe backup option. The data is reliable and accessible.Russ Daniels: It is impportant to think about application, not only about technology. You can not only capture photos or videos but also your calender. It is a new way of doing things. You can create new experiences and move through a range of different devices.
Werner: There ar e3 different layers: Infrastructure, platforms and applications as a service. Each of them could be massively scalable. Thta is my definition.
Is CC the ultimate globalization, what about jurisdiction.
Marissa: Technology has gotten in front of juristiction. In general the laws of the country which the data is stored in applies.
Russ: Legislation is based on the concept of the public good. As a government wou would want to be the data to stay withing your legislative boundaries. Also for job reasons. When I was working at Apple we had a big train wreck because we did not take into account current behaviors or business models.
Werner: Bittorrent for example can run on our cloud. But it's just technlogy. The question whether you use it legally or illegaly is another matter.
Russ: People have to understand very complex questions that make the technology unavailable to people. As long as you stress technology instead of applications this will remain a problem.
Werner: You have to provide the technology so that developers can obey local laws if they chose to do so. I assume that that (most) what runs on our cloud services is legal.
Marissa: Search is how we built our cloud. If you wanna store copies of the web and replicate it you create a low cost secure storage mechnaism. Then we could also offer Gmail and our other services like Docs and Spredsheets.
?: What about adding more and more layers of information to the cloud. Like location data. where is the next frontier, what will be added to the cloud next?
Werner: You assume that we just released 1.0 of Cloud Computing, this is not the case. e continuously evolved in during thelast years and we will continue to do so. [It is more a continuum.] The question is for example: What is the impact on the media world?
Russ: It is true that Amazon lows a lot about me and can cross reference it with other demographic data about where I live. You could youse this rich profile of yourself FOR yourself, but this is not yet possible. It could be one way technology creates value.
Marissa: What Facebook or Amazon do with their data is very specific to those companies. The value of the cloud is in software. Why would you buy so many computers or run an exchange server? Webmail has 15 minutes downtime per month, an exchange server morelike 50 minutes.
Werner: The cloud is an environment that can create platforms that others can build upon. It's not only more agile, cheaper or efficient, but to offer services to others in the cloud.
?: Will the clouds of Google, amazon or Facebook be separatte or connected? Will we end up with a few separte clouds.
Marissa: The cloud supports scalability. If you have for wait for servers to be delivered you lose efficiency.
Russ. You can be a consumer or a provider of the cloud, will there be 2 providers, 5 10, 1,000 or 10,000). There is alot of economical interest to provide this. Telcos have a lot of capacities that they can provide, or IBM. To compete you had to buy and build data centers. Now you can rent a container with everything in it. We will see decentralization here. (?)
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January 27, 2009
10:30 AM